of Earth Changes TV
May 18, 2004
Host: Mitch Battros
Guest: Ian Xel
ECTV: Welcome. It looks like we have a large audience tonight. As I thought we might. My guest is Ian Lungold.
We’re going to jump right into that.
Of course we’re going to talk about Mayan prophecy, Mayan Calendar predictions, and just general intuition.
And it’s, really folks, quite exciting out there because things are coming into fruition, where we’ve been talking about for years and years. Thank goodness, it’s coming on in a more gentle speed if you will, as it unfolds. However, I
have a feeling it’s going to pick up, rather quickly. Well let me, let me start with this article, I can’t help it. It has to do with the financial, economic collapse, if you will. I have two articles here. One is titled, “Has the financial collapse begun?” Indian markets crash, on turmoil, another title is, Asian market, near crash, and
that is a Reuters Report. Bombay, India - Indian stocks plunged as much as 17.5% on Monday, in their biggest one-day fall ever, ever. The rupee and bon both fell, having been boosted, over the past years, by record
levels of foreign investment pouring into Asia. The stock markets crash wiped-out, as much as, forty billion dollars, in investor wealth. The market turmoil forced the Reserve Bank of India to make an emergency statement. Reassuring investors it would
intervene, if necessary. Well folks if it happens there could
it happen in Japan next? Could it
happen in Europe and then happen here? Now my hunch, as Ian has said so often. That even though it seems to be manifesting in Asia
and then perhaps Europe, I’m suggesting as Ian has said, that really it began here. And yes, this is May, and yes this is what Carlos Barrios said would
happen and when. And here we are. As you know Ian Lungold has been
mentioning this many times and I think he might, I have a feeling he’s going to want to share some of his own personal story and how
it’s affected him personally. And perhaps his experience of such will help the rest of us cope, as this thing unfolds. All right very quickly, because I want to get him on, I’m anxious as you are.
Sunspot count jumped to triple digits. Day before yesterday sunspot count jumped to a hundred and forty-eight, yesterday one forty-seven, today still over a
hundred. Six, huge, sunspot regions, one sunspot region
609, the size of eight to twelve Earths, has a good chance of lashing out with M-Class flares, followed by CME’s. I mentioned
yesterday, over twenty-four hours ago, watch out for freak weather.
Folks, we’re already seeing it here, in the States and abroad. Tsunamis have come about, in the Asia, in the southern hemispheres and Asia. And right now we see a huge thunderstorm rolling in from the northwest. Tornados are predicted. Forecasted warnings have been put out.
But are you really surprised
anymore? Gee, could it be the sun? Increased, solar brightness and warning, excuse me solar brightness and warming of Earth since
1979. “Historical records of solar
activity indicate that solar radiation has been increasing, since the
late 19th century”, says Dr. Wilson. If a
trend compared with the one found in the study, persisted during
the 20th century, it would have provided a significant component, of the global warming, that the IPCC report claims has occurred.
And that’s a, it’s a very long article, but well worth reading folks. It’s on the website. In one sentence, basically, it says, “It’s the sun”. But are you really surprised? The Venus transit, coming
up. Boy is that really catching fire. Venus will transit across sun, in one,
in a one hundred and twenty-two year cycle, and it is a six-hour event,
and it occurs on June 8th. I have a feeling Ian might have something to say about that as well. Well who is Ian Lungold? Of course most of you know him.
He is the creator of the Mayan Conversion Codex. Ian is a leading research, researcher of the Maya and their calendar systems. He is also a contributing author, artist and speaker. More
on the predicted U.S. economy collapse will, which is, has begun, and
we’re going to discuss some of that tonight. Ian, are you there?
I am. Hello, everyone.
ECTV: [laughing] Everyone says,
“Hello back”. Ian, I think I’m going to
have you pick it up if you would, with just
the monologue alone and then of course, we’ll
go wherever you like.
IXL: Okay. Well here we are, in the Third
Night, approaching the mid-night of the Third
Night. And I think everybody out there
pretty much can recognize now that there
definitely is an acceleration factor. Not only in the rapidity of invents,
but the seriousness
of events that are happening all across
the globe. And we can fully expect
for this acceleration to increase. What we also
want to talk about tonight…
ECTV: Ian let me, let me get you to speak
right into that phone, I’m, there’s
just been a slight
drop, go ahead.
IXL: Okay. The
other thing we want to talk about tonight is
all of the miracles that are happening, not on
the news, but for each of us,
to each of us, through each of us. There are
miracles abounding, and the more that we
recognize those and validate
those and participate, and then expect
those, the more and more those
be a part of our everyday life. And
that’s part of this
evolution. Not just
all of the shocking stuff
you see or hear on the news. Or the threats,
of the environment, whacking out. Which,
it certainly will. But besides
there is also
a whole other side to this
acceleration of creation and this opening of
possibility. So, I want to talk about that tonight.
ECTV: Wow, Ian.
I can tell, just in the tone of your
voice, you appear somewhat solemn,
almost in a meditative state. Has, what has
happened that got you to this place
IXL: Well, that’s
a very long story. But over the last
twenty months, Madeline and I, have been
engaged, in a match like a chess
match, in court against banks. For, what we have discovered
within the banking system
fraud. And we brought that forth and we
ultimately won in court and with a default
ECTV: Let me get you to speak
right into that phone again.
IXL: We, we…
ECTV: There you
we go. We recently won in court for the default judgment. And, from that, I mean during that period of time,
we, we and most of the public out there
you don’t want to go to court because it’s
just not fair.
You know? You know that. It’s just
not fair. And so,
we went in with the law. We won, to
their chagrin. I mean, that they were surprised
that, that we without being lawyers, could do
And they struck back, in the way that
they can, and they had us move from our
home. And so
we’re in the process
of going back to the courts to recover
that. And that’s
currently what’s going on with me, and
Madeline. But what’s
more important, than our personal
is our viewpoint of these
for the fact that we were the one’s who picked
And there are going to be up’s
and down’s in any battle
and so taking responsibility
for that, and then getting on with enjoying
the change. Rather than being
comfortable at the breakfast table and huddled
around the fire, we were suddenly
put into a different kind of environment.
ECTV: [laughs] Ian
would, is it fair to describe
it as the proverbial fork in the road. You could either go, yelling, crying, screaming,
fall into a deep depression
or embrace the unfolding.
really it Mitch, you hit it right on the head.
I mean we could have gone either way.
Fortunately, we have enough understanding
of the law, to know where we’re standing. Most people,
who are ejected from their home, have no
don’t know what to do.
don’t know there is
anything to do.
IXL: And so
we’re in a different situation than those
of the path that we took. So, that’s
all to our benefit. The
part of that is that knowledge is
IXL: For everybody
out there listening.
IXL: What you know is
your own personal power. Now, that’s
not just physical
knowledge or book knowledge. That’s
also your intuition. Now, funny, I, I, I guess
I’ll just tell the story
or a little bit of it. When the sheriff
showed up with this
bogus Writ of Restitution,
to move us out; they had the guns,
so we had to go.
ECTV: [laughing] Yeah. Right.
IXL: We didn’t have
any place to go. We have a hundred forty
pound dog and the two of us, and a lot of miscellaneous
So we ended up going down and camping for a while, and it was
something that when we were sitting
there, and the sheriff’s
were declaring that this was
for real and we had to go. I went,
“ah-ha!” I mean this
knowing came over me. Ah-ha, we’re supposed
to go to ground.
IXL: We’re supposed
to go embrace or be embraced, in the bosom of
Mother Earth. That’s
to happen here and…
ECTV: Ian, can I ask
you how long it took, from shock if you will;
certainly there must
have been an at least an initial,
somewhat of a traumatic, shock
of sorts. What was the
time between shock
and acceptance? And I think that’s
IXL: What were; you
know in the slurry of activity, of just
handling the situation, there
wasn’t a lot of time
to be upset.
IXL: And of course
after, when we were all done and we had made temporary arrangements,
by that time we had accepted
what had occurred and are looking forward to the fight to get the house
back, because we know exactly
what to do.
IXL: And woe be on to
them lawyers which is;
you know it’s not, I don’t mean to be
vindictive, but there has
to be a stand.
IXL: And you might as
well win if you’re going to stand
IXL: And so,
that’s what we’re about.
Folks, how humble can you get? Ian, I hope that; let’s
see how can I put this? I would like to have the humility that you
have as events
unfold in my life. And folks
I, you, you know what I’m talking about.
It’s going to happen to each and every
one of us, in different areas
of life. If it’s not some
type of foreclosure or financial distress,
which is certainly in the air, it could be any
kind of thing, even the loss
or death of a loved one. And earlier
Ian, when I mentioned the time it took from
the shock and, traumatic shock
and denial to the time of acceptance;
and Ian said just
a few minutes ago that he has
been working on himself; and he has
a wonderful working knowledge of what’s
unfolding. And I think that’s
the only difference between Ian perhaps myself
and many of us, that are studying
what’s going on and staying
awake, and those who are not. It’s not
that the events aren’t going to happen and it’s
not that we’re not going to be prone to shock
and trauma ourselves. The
difference is the time
it takes to stabilize. I think that is
extremely important. Ian, your thoughts?
IXL: Oh, absolutely. I mean the, the; and from that other stable
point, you know when you do get stabilized?
IXL: You do have a
different viewpoint and you can look at things
this afternoon we went and picked up a piece
of our car that was still
left in the garage, at the old house. And the viewpoint that we had about the house
is very interesting. It’s…
ECTV: You weren’t attached.
IXL: …for that but yes,
not as, not attached,
and that’s very important. That stage
is very important
for each person out there
because all of us
are attached to this
or that, our job, our car, our girlfriend, or wife or not. All of us
are attached to things,
and that’s perfectly fine, until you are caught…
IXL: …by those things…
IXL: …and then it’s not so
much fun. And we have just
had a real life experience.
ECTV: Oh, yes.
IXL: With a rapid
change and really enjoying the fact that we were able to ride, this
change. I mean celebrating the fact that
we weren’t upset.
ECTV: Yes, yes,
yes, I understand.
IXL: We went down and
camped, in a beautiful place in Sedona, Arizona.
IXL: Right on the stream. I caught over twenty trout.
ECTV: [laughing] Good for you. [still
laughing] You didn’t pound your chest did you?
IXL: No. But I did lay out, in the sun.
IXL: You know, we just,
we of course; some
days we were scrambling
just to get all our stuff…
IXL: …put away and
what not. But I’ve, been, been building
you know my body that I haven’t used, for a
while. Because I’m just,
I’m a, hey guys, I’m a sculptor
and I’m a computer guy, you know, reading and writing.
IXL: So, now I’m
chopping wood and hauling camping gear. [laughs]
ECTV: Yes. Yes.
IXL: It was
ECTV: Yes. You know, Ian you, we as
humans, we do put quite a bit of energy into
keeping things status
quo. I think we put an enormous
amount of energy in trying to make things
predictable and that could be a fault.
What do you think?
IXL: If your trying
to predict things in too small
of an area, or pattern…
IXL: …you’re going to
If you can look at the bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger picture then you
can kind of predict things. That’s
what the Mayan Calendar is
why, what we’re looking at here, is during the
Third Night, systems
that have been recognized who have false, you
know, quirks; when, when you learn something
new, when you learn a new technology that overcomes
a older technology, it’s apparently obvious
what’s wrong with that older technology.
IXL: It doesn’t
have this or this
or that, or it’s got this
big problem. Well, the same
sort of thing happened at each one of these
levels of consciousness. So right now, during the Third
Night, is when systems
that, are recognized to be flawed, are jettisoned. They are
thrown away by consciousness. And the entire world economy is
based on debt, not production.
whole entire economy of the world is based
on debt. No wonder most
of you listening
out there are in debt. Even, if you supposedly
had money in the bank. Each one of those
a debt note that says
how much you will
pay if an when; there is
ever any real money.
IXL: Real money,
being gold or silver most
commonly. No currencies
in the world, well there, actually there’s
two little islands,
off the coast of England, that have gold-based
No other place has that. Now, we have an electron-based
medium of exchange going on. Which means
that this electron and they, they aren’t even
only a mental concept.
ECTV: It’s like
the futuristic movies
were money’s not exchanged. You get this,
kind of plastic card, kind of a futuristic
credit card if you will,
and it’s simply
IXL: Yes! Well, that’s
already what’s going on.
just not as slick.
more cumbersome and far more for the people
who are who are using this
milk all of us. That’s
why it’s going down. The system
ECTV: Designed, to
IXL: Who makes
all the money during a depression?
ECTV: Uhhhh, well does
that, is it that, the, the idea of the rich
get richer and the poor get poorer?
IXL: All of the
wealth is consolidated
during a collapse. And so, the
whole thing is designed;
I mean look at it. Every Night, during
the Planetary cycle, there was
an economic collapse, every twenty years
an economic collapse in the world. And now, we’re going through, in the First
Night of this Galactic cycle; we had the tech
IXL: During the
Second Night we had the corporate scandals.
IXL: During this
Night, we’re having the Asian market fall out
ECTV: Oh yes.
IXL: And drain so
much capitol and generates so
much fear, amongst Internet [recording skips]
IXL: …that we’ve got
a real serious
ECTV: Yes, we do.
IXL: We’ve got; the
thing that Madeline and I have been going through is
just a microcosm
and a preview of what is going to be happening
for millions of people.
IXL: You see
Freddie Mae, er; Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are not government insured. They are
only government sponsored.
ECTV: Oh, really?
ECTV: How many of you knew that, knew that out there
folks? [laughs] I should’ve
known that, but I didn’t.
IXL: And, when interest
rates go up to 2.2, on the prime rate, than
Freddie Mae and Fannie Mac are insolvent.
of the amounts, of reify, they’ve done on those
low interest rates.
ECTV: When they, when it goes
up to 2.2; what is it now?
IXL: I’m, I’m not
quite sure because,
frankly, I haven’t been on the Internet for the last…
ECTV: Well 2.2 sounds
awfully low. How much lower can you get?
IXL: Well it’s
been below one, it’s been below 1 and ½
IXL: But Greenspan,
as you reported
earlier, was going to raise
So, it is impending doom, for our
IXL: And anybody who
isn’t paying attention
to all of these signs
and doesn’t avail themselves
of the facts, for whatever reason,
Now, I know you saw this
coming Ian, and you’ve said it on the show
so many times,
and thank goodness. I must say
unfolding, unfolding in a more gentle way than I thought it could have, at least,
for those of us
who are awake. In other words,
now I see it coming, tangibly. Where as,
I’m not so sure
if very many people are even noticing what’s
happening in the Asian market. What, what’s
your read on this Ian, as
far as people waking up?
IXL: I think that
people have a wonderful opportunity coming, to wake up en masse,
and that is the Venus
ECTV: Oh yes. What is that
IXL: Well, first
of all Venus; what is
Venus all about?
ECTV: The love
beauty, grace, allure, feminine aspects,
artistic, every want, every single
want of the highest aspirations,
of human kind. You could boil it down
to, Christ consciousness…
In fact, in the Mayan legends,
Quetzacoatyl, when he left this
planet, he became the star Venus.
IXL: And his
energy, is what shine’s
to Earth as the Venus
energy. So, Quetzacoatyl
is also destined
to return, similar to his
other, his counterpart, Jesus
is due to return. Every hundred and twenty-two years
or so, Venus
transits the sun. Then it has
another transit eight years
later. And then it doesn’t
happen again for another hundred and twenty-two years.
there are many, many fascinating
facts about, about Venus
and our relative orbits and spin
and oh, it’s just,
ECTV: Ian, I know that often
you are able to recall events a century
ago. Are there
any points, that typical people like myself,
maybe many of our audience; is there
anything that, that was noticeable a hundred
and twenty-two years ago?
IXL: Actually over
the last few, hundred and twenty-two years,
been one thing that has stood
out about every single Venus
our ability to communicate and cooperate, between each other as
Has been, it just;
it went, leaped forward, during every one of these. For instance,
one of the Venus transits
was when Magellan was
the plans, to take his
round the world voyage. So, he did it
between the first and the second
transit, of Venus.
ECTV: What time
period is that?
was in the 1500’s. 1532, I believe it was.
IXL: I don’t have my
notes right in front of me.
ECTV: All right well the 16th century.
IXL: Another one,
that was not very long ago, was
the last Venus
the laying of the Trans-Atlantic
cable. So that Europe and America could
communicate, instantly. What that did is
it opened up global communication.
ECTV: Oh yes.
between Europe and China, they already had electric telegraph.
IXL: So during, right
then during the Venus transit
they finished the cable. That sort
of thing has happened again and again, and
again and again. And that means,
if we look at all those historical
events running up; and all this
detail, by the way, is at our web page under
the Articles that is…
m.a.y.a.n.m.a.j.i.x. . com.
IXL: And under the
in the Mayan section,
you’ll find articles about Venus
and the past transits. So…
Oh hold it, hold it right there. Ian I’m sorry. We’re doing station
identifications now. It’ll be just
a 30-second break. I’ll be right back with Ian Lungold. Stay tuned.
You don’t want to miss
ECTV: All right.
We’re back and welcome back.
to Earth Changes TV
Radio Hour. My name is
and I’m your host. You’re listening
to a live broadcast, this
May 18th. You’re listening
to my guest and myself. Ian Lungold.
Ian Lungold, is one of the best
how I would describe him, a teacher, of Mayan,
not just the Mayan
Calendar, but Mayan philosophy
if you will. Which has a
grand perspective on life, on the unfolding of
life, the transition, and I don’t know about
you, but for me it helps keep, keep things
in, keeps things
in perspective. Especially
when my normal paradigm starts
to rock-n-roll. When it starts
to get rattled, it’s
really good to have a foundation. Ian,
welcome back to the show.
IXL: Hello there.
ECTV: And welcome.
It looks like we have many new guests
who’ve just tuned in. Well gush,
good, good, good. Thank
you. I’m just
now noticing some of the statistics. Thank you
for just tuning in. I see that some
of you’ve just come aboard at the bottom
of the hour; and this interview will
be on our audio archives after tonight’s
interview. And Ian a gift to you, I’m
going to be passing
this one directly along to your Webmaster,
to post on your site…
IXL: Oh, thank you.
ECTV: …and it will
be free, to all who wish to access
IXL: Yes. I mean you and me Mitch. I mean we’re doing
this as free
as we possibly
IXL: I’m doing it so
ECTV: [laughing] You’re living in the woods.
IXL: [laughing] Yeah. I think its
ECTV: [laughing] Yeah.
IXL: You know, because
we’re not suffering.
IXL: What we are
being able to do is to be able to be in closer
communication, so that we can be of more assistance.
takes a little
bit you know; it takes a base
So, we’re working on establishing
that. And matter
of fact we’re going to be leaving fairly soon
on a trip into Canada, up into the Yucans.
ECTV: Will you be stopping
Perhaps you could give a lecture to the
folks in the northwest.
IXL: I would love to
do that, that’s why I, yeah I would, I would
love; if anybody out there knows
of a group, or a couple of groups of people,
who would like to see or meet, Madeline and I,
and get caught up and, on recent developments,
and ask the questions
that you’ve been wanting too; we are wide open to that and…
ECTV: Folks, listen
to this. Look I know there’s
out there, some
of the most brightest
and brilliant and enthusiastic
to the show.
Folks, come on, one of you who live up
here in the northwest put your coordinator hat
on and, and, and make it happen. You can
get a hold of Ian through his website. His e-mail
on the site and I didn’t know if you wanted
to reveal any other information, probably the site
would be the best. Ian?
IXL: Yeah, that’s
the best way, and that’s
Ian, that’s I.a.n., at mayanmajix.com.
ECTV: You better spell
ECTV: Very good.
IXL: And you
coordinators out there. Make it fair.
I mean you know, we want, we want to charge or have people donate, but
we want it to be a fair donation and…
ECTV: Ian, were you able to grab your, your multimedia
system? Visual aides? Did you grab your slide
you be able to have some slides,
from your travels?
IXL: No. I wasn’t
able to get that.
IXL: But I did bring
my easel. [laughs]
cool anyway. I could use
a, I could use a stick
in the dirt and it’d be just fine.
ECTV: [laughing very hard] Okay. I love this. I love this.
IXL: So do I. And I want you all out there
to realize, that this, none of this;
remember the Hopi said that, “There’s
a river, running very fast. It’s so
swift that there
will be many
who are afraid. They
will, they will
try to hold on to the shore. And because
of that, they’re going to feel like they’re being torn apart”.
ECTV: Yes. That is
IXL: You know it’s
not time, this
is not the time;
and Ruiz with the Toltecs,
the wisdom, don’t take anything personally…
of all, yourself.
ECTV: Ian, if, if, if I can and, and you know, please
put me back to the direction in your message
for tonight, but I can’t help but think; here
we are in May, and it was March I think, I
think it was the end of March. It was a
year and a month ago or so, it may have been
the first of April; I had you on the show
Ian. I was
living in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The war had
just broke out. I could see
through bubba Bush and what he was
doing. Immediately, I was
livid. You brought me back to reality
and helped me calm down and get the larger perspective,
and not be prone to hate. And one of the
things that you told me then, which I did
believe you then, but it means so
much more, seeing it happen. Was that you
said this was
the year of integrity and watch what happens
to the Bush regime. That the house
of cards will
implode. Now, at the time,
no one would’ve believed it. He was
bulletproof. And now looks
IXL: He wasn’t
proof, was he?
IXL: [laughing] As,
as we go this
is going to get actually, funny. You know?
Have you ever watched a stupid program
and you end up laughing anyway?
ECTV: Even though you know what’s
going to happen and, and, and the guy acts so
when it does.
IXL: Yeah. It’s like
camp. You know?
IXL: I mean it’s
silly that you’re even sitting
there watching it. That’s
what events are going to start
looking like to us, if they haven’t already; I
mean this whole thing about the torture. Right?
IXL: I don’t know how
many of you out there have signed
up for the Third Night News,
but at our web page you can go on and we have a, I do a monthly newsletter. And one of the newsletters
I put out, one of the Third Night News,
was talking about the seduction.
seduction of your time
and attention by the media, in behest
of the powerful. Who; they already got
your kids, they’ve got your car, you never own
that the state has
it. You know the house? The bank has
it. You’re, basically,
everybody out there is
already kind of bought and sold. But now, they want your time
IXL: And what they’re
doing is they’re ratcheting up the disclosures
of horrible ideas to fascinate
people, and get them more and more and more incensed. Because the
more angry you are the more out of control you are, emotionally.
easier it is
IXL: …the population.
ECTV: Yes. Yes,
can be herded and steered like, well like, steers.
ECTV: Well, you know, I hate to mention it because
it’s been overused,
but I can’t help it. Folks,
a perfect example is
Germany and Hitler. That’s
exactly what happened and exactly
what he did.
IXL: And it’s
following the same
formula. I mean, I’ve heard this
IXL: A lot of times,
I think that many of us out there
are already having that kind of feeling.
But let’s go back to the Venus
ECTV: Oh, yes
IXL: Now, I’m going
to give a little background, just
Mayan calendar we’re talking about has
days and nights,
and every day has a high noon, and every night
has a mid-night, and there’s
a certain pattern that it follows
through. Well the, the day’s
high noon is a bright understanding
But during the nights, during the
mid-night, there is
some kind of occurrence. I mean, its,
comes to a turning point. It doesn’t
go down anymore. It hits
IXL: …and then bounces
up toward the next day, the next
dawn, the next idea. So, June 6th of 2004 is
the mid-night, of this Third
Night. Now remember we were talking
earlier, we were talking about, during the Third
Night, old systems
no longer work.
IXL: Right. They get,
they get, pitched.
IXL: And, so,
here we go. We have every Venus
is a jump in our ability to communicate to one
IXL: We have the
telegraph, then the telephone, then the radio, then the television,
now the Internet and then cell phones, which
are getting smaller
and smaller, and smarter
IXL: So what is,
going to be, a quantum jump from cell phones?
IXL: Well, I think so.
ECTV: Oh my gosh.
ECTV: Well that is
what the Mayan’s
of saying, “That
our intuition will
from this point forward”. Is that
more and more happens, in less
and less time,
more is possible
to occur. Including miracles
already happening, isn’t it folks? You kind of got the idea who’s
on the end of the phone, without even using
your caller ID. The
caller ID was, sort
of, a intermediary step.
IXL: Of knowing who is
on the other end.
IXL: You get this? I mean this,
walking. And the way, we can see
where it’s going, is
in the technology. So, we’ve got this
increase in ability and ease
in communication. Now talk about getting
rid of an old unworkable system. Hey you guys,
I mean, you love paying your phone bill?
What about gas?
IXL: Oh, you mean
the, the, the gasoline?
Oh yes, three dollars
IXL: Well yeah, yeah
well that; what’s going on there
is that, is
only more pressure
applied, to the public. It’s
not an economic necessity. It’s something,
which is applied as
of, like pliers on your molars.
ECTV: Oh, gaud
IXL: [laughing] You
that’s the whole idea. Remember, we’re in this
Third Night, this;
we’re at civil war.
ECTV: Ian, didn’t you mention that, that part of
the Third Night; is
when, the powers to be so
to speak, the so-called
controllers, they are grasping
with every fingernail they possibly
can as, as, as,
as they start
to lose their grip if you will
and they’re, and desperate acts
IXL: I think I called
them, as, suffocating
ECTV: Ah yes.
IXL: Yeah. I mean not just
starving and not just
dying of thirst, but now suffocating
and there’s, still,
lots of kick in this
kind of thing, is what’s
going on right now.
ECTV: Yes. Yes.
IXL: You know we’ve,
we; the passing
of these old systems,
we shouldn’t imagine
them to be all that easy.
IXL: But we can make
it easy on ourselves,
the whole process.
ECTV: That does
I, I, I, like I said earlier, I don’t think
it’s going to eliminate the shock
and trauma that may occur. I mean we just
can be stunned. However, I think the time
period from the event to acceptance, if you will,
can be shortened
dramatically. Ian, is
that a fair assessment?
and especially with what happens
on June 8th. Remember the
mid-night, of the Third Night, is
June 6th. We hit bottom
and we bounce, whatever that bottom looks
like, whatever that event is, there’s
a, some event, which turns
then. And it starts
going in the other direction. Two
days later, forty-eight hours
later, we have the Venus transit. Which is
when, if people are open to it, they should be
receiving some, sort
of, of, energy or download having to do with their; a new, well, I shouldn’t
say new but a, remembered sensory
perception, that is each other. And this isn’t,
going to just come on like a flashlight
in peoples, you know, lives. I don’t think. I think it’ll probably come on as
a little blinking light somewhere.
IXL: It just
IXL: You know?
IXL: And the more you
pay attention to it, the steadier
that light becomes. To where you
can then, finally, find a switch and turn it
on and off, for yourself.
ECTV: Yes. Ian, here’s
an interesting measuring
Or at least to me and to maybe
but I’m going to throw it out anyway.
because of the field that I’m in. Ian, do you believe, in the next
that, there will
be an increase in anti-depressants,
in mood, in mood repressants
if you will? Rather it, be anxiety,
or manic episodes? Or will
there be an increase
or do you think there’ll be a decrease?
IXL: I think there’ll
be a dramatic increase, but very short.
IXL: It would be;
what’s going to happen here, is
as you are already finding out, as
we’re finding out. Secrets
are going extinct. There’s,
it’s too easy,
for anybody to find out everything.
IXL: And so,
about you personally, each of you out there
personally, or about what’s
going on behind the scenes,
inside the government, down in the deep dark
I mean, just, everything is
IXL: So, secrets
are going extinct. Now imagine,
that all of a sudden,
the perception of telepathy turns on for, the
vast majority of, humanity. Not everybody is
going to be happy about it. I mean there’s
going to be some problems
a lot of, people have secrets
from one another, that, they just wouldn’t
want other people to know about.
IXL: And, they will
And I would imagine, that during that
period of time, people who are prone to using
or whatever they can do to get away from…
ECTV: Or addictions,
for that matter, I suppose
IXL: Yeah. They’ll;
it’ll be quite a jump.
IXL: But, only for a short
period of time here, an adjustment
ECTV: Yes. Yes.
IXL: So, that’s…
ECTV: What; let me; I want a, I’m, I’m just
with this Pluto, excuse
me, Venus transit,
it, it, it; I, I always like to know if there’s
any, tangible, thing, that one might see
or feel, say, a couple of weeks
before or during and after this event?
IXL: Well, the thing
your seeing is
brighter and brighter. Announcing herself
every evening. I would advise
people just go out and stand,
for ten, fifteen minutes,
and just stare
at that planet.
IXL: And or read a
book. A “kid’s”
book, about Venus.
IXL: Read some
of the legends about Venus. Then go look
at the planet and the beauty and the feeling that comes
off of her. Now remember, when you’re
doing that, what you’re looking at is a
reflection, a reflection of her energy. That
is the sun
is shining on
her and a little thought of her energy is
coming back. And, whatever it is,
that you’re experiencing there
is that reflection or that little
IXL: During the transit,
on the other hand, Venus for six
between us and the sun. Now the sun
ready for a party.
ECTV: Oh boy.
IXL: She is
amping up the solar flares.
ECTV: Oh yes.
IXL: And, as
she comes by,
to be all guns blazing.
ECTV: Wow, I am going to mark that down. Folks, I, I will
track this very closely
and, and what Ian has just
is that we should
see a sharp
increase in sunspot
and, and, M and X-class
flares and, my gosh,
I hope that’s true. What, what…
this time, listen
time, all of that energy that’s
coming on to Earth?
have in it, Venus energy.
ECTV: Oh boy.
everything that Venus has
got or stands
for, the whole of her body and, of, atmospheric
all of it, will
be blasted straight
at Earth, by the Sun, for six
ECTV: Oh wow.
What a thought.
IXL: So let’s
have a CME of love...
IXL: …and divinity.
Let’s do. Let’s
do. I, gosh,
I, I, I don’t know if we could handle it Ian.
I think we’d be overwhelmed.
IXL: What? We can only handle bad stuff?
ECTV: Yeah, that’s
what I’m; I’m, I’m really kind of saying it
tongue in cheek. Or, or, or am I? I’m not sure,
but you know, I know this. I know when people get conditioned to a
certain way, and even when something very good
can happen, it can feel weird to them.
IXL: It will.
ECTV: But I’m going to accept it. I’m going; let’s,
try it folks.
Let’s try and accept love for a
we could handle that?
IXL: Yeah, we can accept that our president
is an Abe body.
IXL: We can accept,
we accept, that.
IXL: We can, we can
accept that we’d better kill like two-thirds
of the world’s population. That’s
what we’re saying.
IXL: We can get by,
IXL: But, we cannot
or tolerate the fact that we can love one another?
ECTV: [takes a
deep breath] Wow. Wow, I’m speechless.
IXL: Well, an ethical
We’re headed for an ethical consciousness. That is
built by personal integrity.
IXL: And, with the
ability to be a telepath, the; first of all,
the people who will
be the most able will
be the people who are ethical.
aren’t blocked by their own secrets.
have their, they have integrity, or they’re willing
to share. [laughs]
ECTV: [laughing] Yes,
IXL: But then, that’s
many, many people, who will
not be willing
IXL: Now it’s
unethical to reach into that person. But, sort of
like, if you’ve got a neighbor with a, with a yard, you don’t run over there
and jump around on it, now do you?
IXL: Okay, that’s
all fine, good, and dandy. That’s
IXL: You have your
yard he has his. Now, if that mother goes
and builds, an eight-foot brick wall, between
your yard and his yard, you definitely notice
it, don’t you?
IXL: Well, that’s
going to be the situation, for people who
don’t want to participate, in that consciousness
which opens or welcomes
people will stand
out like sore thumbs.
Wouldn’t that be nice for a change?
IXL: Well, it will
and it won’t. Because,
remember that, this whole cycle, of the
is to divide, to separate.
ECTV: Oh, yes.
cleave one group into another, or an individual from even a relationship. I mean it’s
cleaving and cleaving, and cleaving, discernment,
IXL: And that’s
going to be all part of this.
is the, this
is really an acceleration guys. And it’s not
just in one little
level or area. It’s
ECTV: Yes. Is there
anything that you; well actually, well we’re almost
Jeez, I, I, we, just realized what the,
it’s, it, it’s
a; we’re more than halfway through May.
June is just
around the corner. That
is the focus. Really, there’s
no; well I have heard this, Ian. I might as
well ask you.
There are some
who are suggesting
that after this, hopefully good, experience
through June, that perhaps maybe this
is part of the division
if you will,
or the purging, that some
may have an extremely challenging
time in August. And then again in, I think, its
November, December. Any comments
IXL: Well, I’d go
along with people, some people, having a
And I would also go along, and mostly
go along, with people being able, to rise to
the occasion, to be more than who they ever
ECTV: Hmmm. Yes, indeed.
IXL: I see
IXL: I see
people, coming forward to help us, right now,
with more than they thought they could give.
ECTV: You mean, you personally?
IXL: Me personally.
ECTV: Oh yes, yes.
IXL: It has
been one miracle after another, after another.
IXL: And I don’t see
any reason, other than one. I can see
one reason for all of this
miracle to stop. And that is,
if I was to not be in integrity.
would, that would undue it. And that’s
such a great reason.
ECTV: Yes, of course.
IXL: So, it’s
ECTV: Ian, by the way, I wanted
you to know I’m going to have Carl Calleman on June 3rd.
IXL: Oh, wow.
Because I wanted
to get him on, before the big day June 8th and, now that you’ve
mentioned it, June 6th. I
know he’s putting
together that huge gathering, on the scale of
the harmonic concordance, type thing.
IXL: Oh yes.
I, I suspect
it’s going to be larger, maybe even, as,
as, maybe even twice as
IXL: I would imagine
this is going
to be, very mainstream, as
ECTV: Yes, I have
IXL: A lot of you listening
out there right now are mainstream
Don’t insult me like that. No, you’re right, you’re absolutely
IXL: And thank all of
us for gathering here, like this…
IXL: …to discuss
and to grow together.
ECTV: Absolutely. Ian, we’re down to our last
couple of minutes. You know, I always
like to give it to you and, and, to leave us
with whatever message
that is on your heart, at the, at the moment,
and, and then I’m going to give your website
out, once more. Go ahead please.
IXL: Okay. Well, we’ve got this
forth day that’s coming up and it’s
time for us
to get ready for our dreams to be manifest. Now, you’ve probably noticed already that, there
has been a general gathering, of like-minded
people around you. Out of nowhere you’re
meeting people that just match up, with what
you have in mind. And the Third
Night, as well as
being a time of discarding
is also a time
for birds of a feather or points
of view that agree, to come together, to plan for application. Then, during
the Fourth Day, this plan comes
to manifest, with new awareness. And that new awareness
is then applied, to planning, during the
Fourth Night, and on we go. But this,
particular, Fourth Night is when ethics
overcome the consciousness
of power and opens up, the true possibility
of, a level playing field. During the
Fourth Day, during the Third Night, things
are going to get pretty well flattened. But, during the Fourth Night, they will
as a level playing field.
ECTV: The Fourth
Night, or Fourth Day?
Fourth Day, excuse
as a, level, playing field. Now, primarily, amongst
that would be things like free energy because,
really, that’s the only discrepancy
between rich and poor.
IXL: How much energy
they have at their disposal.
IXL: So, making it
all level, that’s, that’s
something that will
during the Fourth Day.
ECTV: Is that
before 2012 or after?
ECTV: Way before?
that’s December 4th…
ECTV: Oh, wow.
IXL: …2004. That’s
three hundred and sixty
days, from December 4th, of 2004…
IXL: …to November 28th,
ECTV: Well, Ian, we’re going to have to leave it
right there and what a wonderful place, to leave it at. With, such beautiful, hopes. You can reach Ian Lungold; folks once again,
I, and really, matter of fact, you know what I’m going to do Ian? If, if, if as soon as someone from the
northwest contacts you, count me in.
I’m, folks, I am going to join Ian if he comes out, up here to the
northwest and I, you know, I’m, I’m not going to do much of a lecture. I’m just going to be there, for him. Maybe I’ll spend an hour there, say hello to
a lot of people. But I’d sure like to
see this happen. So, those coordinators
out there, “Let’s get it rolling”. You
can reach Ian through his website at, www.mayanmajix.com. That’s
m.a.y.a.n.m.a.j.i.x. .com. Ian, best
wishes to you.
you very much and thank you everyone out there.
ECTV: Take care,