Transcript
of Earth Changes TV
Radio Hour
May 18, 2004
Host: Mitch Battros
Guest: Ian Xel
Lungold
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ECTV: Welcome. It looks like we have a large audience tonight. As I thought we might. My guest is Ian Lungold.
We’re going to jump right into that.
Of course we’re going to talk about Mayan prophecy, Mayan Calendar predictions, and just general intuition.
And it’s, really folks, quite exciting out there because things are coming into fruition, where we’ve been talking about for years and years. Thank goodness, it’s coming on in a more gentle speed if you will, as it unfolds. However, I
have a feeling it’s going to pick up, rather quickly. Well let me, let me start with this article, I can’t help it. It has to do with the financial, economic collapse, if you will. I have two articles here. One is titled, “Has the financial collapse begun?” Indian markets crash, on turmoil, another title is, Asian market, near crash, and
that is a Reuters Report. Bombay, India - Indian stocks plunged as much as 17.5% on Monday, in their biggest one-day fall ever, ever. The rupee and bon both fell, having been boosted, over the past years, by record
levels of foreign investment pouring into Asia. The stock markets crash wiped-out, as much as, forty billion dollars, in investor wealth. The market turmoil forced the Reserve Bank of India to make an emergency statement. Reassuring investors it would
intervene, if necessary. Well folks if it happens there could
it happen in Japan next? Could it
happen in Europe and then happen here? Now my hunch, as Ian has said so often. That even though it seems to be manifesting in Asia
and then perhaps Europe, I’m suggesting as Ian has said, that really it began here. And yes, this is May, and yes this is what Carlos Barrios said would
happen and when. And here we are. As you know Ian Lungold has been
mentioning this many times and I think he might, I have a feeling he’s going to want to share some of his own personal story and how
it’s affected him personally. And perhaps his experience of such will help the rest of us cope, as this thing unfolds. All right very quickly, because I want to get him on, I’m anxious as you are.
Sunspot count jumped to triple digits. Day before yesterday sunspot count jumped to a hundred and forty-eight, yesterday one forty-seven, today still over a
hundred. Six, huge, sunspot regions, one sunspot region
609, the size of eight to twelve Earths, has a good chance of lashing out with M-Class flares, followed by CME’s. I mentioned
yesterday, over twenty-four hours ago, watch out for freak weather.
Folks, we’re already seeing it here, in the States and abroad. Tsunamis have come about, in the Asia, in the southern hemispheres and Asia. And right now we see a huge thunderstorm rolling in from the northwest. Tornados are predicted. Forecasted warnings have been put out.
But are you really surprised
anymore? Gee, could it be the sun? Increased, solar brightness and warning, excuse me solar brightness and warming of Earth since
1979. “Historical records of solar
activity indicate that solar radiation has been increasing, since the
late 19th century”, says Dr. Wilson. If a
trend compared with the one found in the study, persisted during
the 20th century, it would have provided a significant component, of the global warming, that the IPCC report claims has occurred.
And that’s a, it’s a very long article, but well worth reading folks. It’s on the website. In one sentence, basically, it says, “It’s the sun”. But are you really surprised? The Venus transit, coming
up. Boy is that really catching fire. Venus will transit across sun, in one,
in a one hundred and twenty-two year cycle, and it is a six-hour event,
and it occurs on June 8th. I have a feeling Ian might have something to say about that as well. Well who is Ian Lungold? Of course most of you know him.
He is the creator of the Mayan Conversion Codex. Ian is a leading research, researcher of the Maya and their calendar systems. He is also a contributing author, artist and speaker. More
on the predicted U.S. economy collapse will, which is, has begun, and
we’re going to discuss some of that tonight. Ian, are you there?
IXL: Yes,
I am. Hello, everyone.
ECTV: [laughing] Everyone says,
“Hello back”. Ian, I think I’m going to
have you pick it up if you would, with just
the monologue alone and then of course, we’ll
go wherever you like.
IXL: Okay. Well here we are, in the Third
Night, approaching the mid-night of the Third
Night. And I think everybody out there
pretty much can recognize now that there
definitely is an acceleration factor. Not only in the rapidity of invents,
but the seriousness
of events that are happening all across
the globe. And we can fully expect
for this acceleration to increase. What we also
want to talk about tonight…
ECTV: Ian let me, let me get you to speak
right into that phone, I’m, there’s
just been a slight
drop, go ahead.
IXL: Okay. The
other thing we want to talk about tonight is
all of the miracles that are happening, not on
the news, but for each of us,
to each of us, through each of us. There are
miracles abounding, and the more that we
recognize those and validate
those and participate, and then expect
those, the more and more those
miracles will
be a part of our everyday life. And
that’s part of this
evolution. Not just
all of the shocking stuff
you see or hear on the news. Or the threats,
of the environment, whacking out. Which,
it certainly will. But besides
those threats
there is also
a whole other side to this
acceleration of creation and this opening of
possibility. So, I want to talk about that tonight.
ECTV: Wow, Ian.
I can tell, just in the tone of your
voice, you appear somewhat solemn,
almost in a meditative state. Has, what has
happened that got you to this place
today?
IXL: Well, that’s
a very long story. But over the last
twenty months, Madeline and I, have been
engaged, in a match like a chess
match, in court against banks. For, what we have discovered
within the banking system
is, systematic
fraud. And we brought that forth and we
ultimately won in court and with a default
judgment.
ECTV: Let me get you to speak
right into that phone again.
IXL: We, we…
ECTV: There you
go.
IXL: There
we go. We recently won in court for the default judgment. And, from that, I mean during that period of time,
we, we and most of the public out there
understand,
you don’t want to go to court because it’s
just not fair.
You know? You know that. It’s just
not fair. And so,
we went in with the law. We won, to
their chagrin. I mean, that they were surprised
that, that we without being lawyers, could do
this.
And they struck back, in the way that
they can, and they had us move from our
home. And so
we’re in the process
of going back to the courts to recover
that. And that’s
currently what’s going on with me, and
Madeline. But what’s
more important, than our personal
circumstances,
is our viewpoint of these
circumstances.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: Taking
responsibility,
for the fact that we were the one’s who picked
this fight.
And there are going to be up’s
and down’s in any battle
and so taking responsibility
for that, and then getting on with enjoying
the change. Rather than being
comfortable at the breakfast table and huddled
around the fire, we were suddenly
put into a different kind of environment.
ECTV: [laughs] Ian
would, is it fair to describe
it as the proverbial fork in the road. You could either go, yelling, crying, screaming,
fall into a deep depression
or embrace the unfolding.
IXL: That’s
really it Mitch, you hit it right on the head.
I mean we could have gone either way.
Fortunately, we have enough understanding
of the law, to know where we’re standing. Most people,
who are ejected from their home, have no
bearing.
ECTV: Right.
IXL: They
don’t know what to do.
ECTV: Right.
IXL: They
don’t know there is
anything to do.
ECTV: Right.
IXL: And so
we’re in a different situation than those
folks, because
of the path that we took. So, that’s
all to our benefit. The
most important
part of that is that knowledge is
power.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: For everybody
out there listening.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: What you know is
your own personal power. Now, that’s
not just physical
knowledge or book knowledge. That’s
also your intuition. Now, funny, I, I, I guess
I’ll just tell the story
or a little bit of it. When the sheriff
showed up with this
bogus Writ of Restitution,
to move us out; they had the guns,
so we had to go.
ECTV: [laughing] Yeah. Right.
IXL: We didn’t have
any place to go. We have a hundred forty
pound dog and the two of us, and a lot of miscellaneous
stuff.
So we ended up going down and camping for a while, and it was
something that when we were sitting
there, and the sheriff’s
were declaring that this was
for real and we had to go. I went,
“ah-ha!” I mean this
knowing came over me. Ah-ha, we’re supposed
to go to ground.
ECTV: Wow.
IXL: We’re supposed
to go embrace or be embraced, in the bosom of
Mother Earth. That’s
what’s supposed
to happen here and…
ECTV: Ian, can I ask
you how long it took, from shock if you will;
certainly there must
have been an at least an initial,
somewhat of a traumatic, shock
of sorts. What was the
time between shock
and acceptance? And I think that’s
so important.
I’ll explain...
[Recording skips]
ECTV: Fantastic.
IXL: What were; you
know in the slurry of activity, of just
handling the situation, there
wasn’t a lot of time
to be upset.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: And of course
after, when we were all done and we had made temporary arrangements,
by that time we had accepted
what had occurred and are looking forward to the fight to get the house
back, because we know exactly
what to do.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: And woe be on to
them lawyers which is;
you know it’s not, I don’t mean to be
vindictive, but there has
to be a stand.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: And you might as
well win if you’re going to stand
up.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: And so,
that’s what we’re about.
ECTV: Wow.
Folks, how humble can you get? Ian, I hope that; let’s
see how can I put this? I would like to have the humility that you
have as events
unfold in my life. And folks
I, you, you know what I’m talking about.
It’s going to happen to each and every
one of us, in different areas
of life. If it’s not some
type of foreclosure or financial distress,
which is certainly in the air, it could be any
kind of thing, even the loss
or death of a loved one. And earlier
Ian, when I mentioned the time it took from
the shock and, traumatic shock
and denial to the time of acceptance;
and Ian said just
a few minutes ago that he has
been working on himself; and he has
a wonderful working knowledge of what’s
unfolding. And I think that’s
the only difference between Ian perhaps myself
and many of us, that are studying
what’s going on and staying
awake, and those who are not. It’s not
that the events aren’t going to happen and it’s
not that we’re not going to be prone to shock
and trauma ourselves. The
difference is the time
it takes to stabilize. I think that is
extremely important. Ian, your thoughts?
IXL: Oh, absolutely. I mean the, the; and from that other stable
point, you know when you do get stabilized?
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: You do have a
different viewpoint and you can look at things
differently. Just
this afternoon we went and picked up a piece
of our car that was still
left in the garage, at the old house. And the viewpoint that we had about the house
is very interesting. It’s…
ECTV: You weren’t attached.
IXL: …still
admiration for…
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: …for that but yes,
not as, not attached,
and that’s very important. That stage
is very important
for each person out there
listening,
because all of us
are attached to this
or that, our job, our car, our girlfriend, or wife or not. All of us
are attached to things,
and that’s perfectly fine, until you are caught…
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: …by those things…
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: …and then it’s not so
much fun. And we have just
had a real life experience.
ECTV: Oh, yes.
[laughs]
IXL: With a rapid
change and really enjoying the fact that we were able to ride, this
change. I mean celebrating the fact that
we weren’t upset.
ECTV: Yes, yes,
yes, I understand.
IXL: We went down and
camped, in a beautiful place in Sedona, Arizona.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: Right on the stream. I caught over twenty trout.
ECTV: [laughing] Good for you. [still
laughing] You didn’t pound your chest did you?
IXL: No. But I did lay out, in the sun.
ECTV: Okay.
IXL: You know, we just,
we of course; some
days we were scrambling
just to get all our stuff…
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: …put away and
what not. But I’ve, been, been building
muscles.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: Things;
you know my body that I haven’t used, for a
while. Because I’m just,
I’m a, hey guys, I’m a sculptor
and I’m a computer guy, you know, reading and writing.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: So, now I’m
chopping wood and hauling camping gear. [laughs]
ECTV: Yes. Yes.
IXL: It was
wonderful.
ECTV: Yes. You know, Ian you, we as
humans, we do put quite a bit of energy into
keeping things status
quo. I think we put an enormous
amount of energy in trying to make things
predictable and that could be a fault.
What do you think?
IXL: If your trying
to predict things in too small
of an area, or pattern…
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: …you’re going to
have problems.
If you can look at the bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger picture then you
can kind of predict things. That’s
what the Mayan Calendar is
doing.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: That’s
why, what we’re looking at here, is during the
Third Night, systems
that have been recognized who have false, you
know, quirks; when, when you learn something
new, when you learn a new technology that overcomes
a older technology, it’s apparently obvious
what’s wrong with that older technology.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: It doesn’t
have this or this
or that, or it’s got this
big problem. Well, the same
sort of thing happened at each one of these
levels of consciousness. So right now, during the Third
Night, is when systems
that, are recognized to be flawed, are jettisoned. They are
thrown away by consciousness. And the entire world economy is
based on debt, not production.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: The
whole entire economy of the world is based
on debt. No wonder most
of you listening
out there are in debt. Even, if you supposedly
had money in the bank. Each one of those
greenbacks is
a debt note that says
how much you will
pay if an when; there is
ever any real money.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: Real money,
being gold or silver most
commonly. No currencies
in the world, well there, actually there’s
two little islands,
off the coast of England, that have gold-based
economies.
No other place has that. Now, we have an electron-based
medium of exchange going on. Which means
that this electron and they, they aren’t even
real.
ECTV: Right.
IXL: They’re
only a mental concept.
ECTV: It’s like
the futuristic movies
were money’s not exchanged. You get this,
kind of plastic card, kind of a futuristic
credit card if you will,
and it’s simply
credits.
IXL: Yes! Well, that’s
already what’s going on.
ECTV: Yeah.
IXL: It’s
just not as slick.
ECTV: Right.
IXL: It’s
more cumbersome and far more for the people
who are who are using this
system to
milk all of us. That’s
why it’s going down. The system
was designed
to fail.
ECTV: Designed, to
fail?
IXL: Who makes
all the money during a depression?
ECTV: Uhhhh, well does
that, is it that, the, the idea of the rich
get richer and the poor get poorer?
IXL: Exactly.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: All of the
wealth is consolidated
during a collapse. And so, the
whole thing is designed;
I mean look at it. Every Night, during
the Planetary cycle, there was
an economic collapse, every twenty years
an economic collapse in the world. And now, we’re going through, in the First
Night of this Galactic cycle; we had the tech
bubble burst.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: During the
Second Night we had the corporate scandals.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: During this
Night, we’re having the Asian market fall out
the bottom.
ECTV: Oh yes.
IXL: And drain so
much capitol and generates so
much fear, amongst Internet [recording skips]
masters…
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: …that we’ve got
a real serious
problem.
ECTV: Yes, we do.
IXL: We’ve got; the
thing that Madeline and I have been going through is
just a microcosm
and a preview of what is going to be happening
for millions of people.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: You see
Freddie Mae, er; Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are not government insured. They are
only government sponsored.
ECTV: Oh, really?
IXL: Yeah.
ECTV: How many of you knew that, knew that out there
folks? [laughs] I should’ve
known that, but I didn’t.
IXL: And, when interest
rates go up to 2.2, on the prime rate, than
Freddie Mae and Fannie Mac are insolvent.
ECTV: Insolvent?
IXL: Because
of the amounts, of reify, they’ve done on those
low interest rates.
ECTV: When they, when it goes
up to 2.2; what is it now?
IXL: I’m, I’m not
quite sure because,
frankly, I haven’t been on the Internet for the last…
ECTV: Well 2.2 sounds
awfully low. How much lower can you get?
IXL: Well it’s
been below one, it’s been below 1 and ½
percent.
ECTV: Wow.
IXL: But Greenspan,
as you reported
earlier, was going to raise
the rates.
So, it is impending doom, for our
economic system.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: And anybody who
isn’t paying attention
to all of these signs
and doesn’t avail themselves
of the facts, for whatever reason,
probably deserves
their fate.
ECTV: Wow.
Now, I know you saw this
coming Ian, and you’ve said it on the show
so many times,
and thank goodness. I must say
this. Thank
goodness it’s
unfolding, unfolding in a more gentle way than I thought it could have, at least,
for those of us
who are awake. In other words,
now I see it coming, tangibly. Where as,
I’m not so sure
if very many people are even noticing what’s
happening in the Asian market. What, what’s
your read on this Ian, as
far as people waking up?
IXL: I think that
people have a wonderful opportunity coming, to wake up en masse,
and that is the Venus
transit.
ECTV: Oh yes. What is that
all about?
IXL: Well, first
of all Venus; what is
Venus all about?
ECTV: The love
planet?
IXL: Yes,
beauty, grace, allure, feminine aspects,
artistic, every want, every single
want of the highest aspirations,
of human kind. You could boil it down
to, Christ consciousness…
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: …is,
Venus.
In fact, in the Mayan legends,
Quetzacoatyl, when he left this
dimension, this
planet, he became the star Venus.
ECTV: Oh.
IXL: And his
energy, Quetzacoatyls
energy, is what shine’s
to Earth as the Venus
energy. So, Quetzacoatyl
is also destined
to return, similar to his
other, his counterpart, Jesus
Christ.
Their consciousness
is due to return. Every hundred and twenty-two years
or so, Venus
transits the sun. Then it has
another transit eight years
later. And then it doesn’t
happen again for another hundred and twenty-two years.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: There’s,
there are many, many fascinating
facts about, about Venus
and our relative orbits and spin
and oh, it’s just,
it’s marvelous.
ECTV: Ian, I know that often
you are able to recall events a century
ago. Are there
any points, that typical people like myself,
maybe many of our audience; is there
anything that, that was noticeable a hundred
and twenty-two years ago?
IXL: Actually over
the last few, hundred and twenty-two years,
there has
been one thing that has stood
out about every single Venus
transit.
That is,
our ability to communicate and cooperate, between each other as
human beings.
Has been, it just;
it went, leaped forward, during every one of these. For instance,
one of the Venus transits
was when Magellan was
setting out
the plans, to take his
round the world voyage. So, he did it
between the first and the second
transit, of Venus.
ECTV: What time
period is that?
IXL: That
was in the 1500’s. 1532, I believe it was.
ECTV: Okay.
IXL: I don’t have my
notes right in front of me.
ECTV: All right well the 16th century.
IXL: Another one,
that was not very long ago, was
the last Venus
transit; was
the laying of the Trans-Atlantic
cable. So that Europe and America could
communicate, instantly. What that did is
it opened up global communication.
ECTV: Oh yes.
IXL: Because,
between Europe and China, they already had electric telegraph.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: So during, right
then during the Venus transit
they finished the cable. That sort
of thing has happened again and again, and
again and again. And that means,
if we look at all those historical
events running up; and all this
detail, by the way, is at our web page under
the Articles that is…
ECTV: Okay.
IXL: …mayanmajix,
m.a.y.a.n.m.a.j.i.x. . com.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: And under the
Articles section
in the Mayan section,
you’ll find articles about Venus
and the past transits. So…
ECTV:
Oh hold it, hold it right there. Ian I’m sorry. We’re doing station
identifications now. It’ll be just
a 30-second break. I’ll be right back with Ian Lungold. Stay tuned.
You don’t want to miss
this.
[Break]
ECTV: All right.
We’re back and welcome back.
You’re listening
to Earth Changes TV
Radio Hour. My name is
Mitch Battros
and I’m your host. You’re listening
to a live broadcast, this
May 18th. You’re listening
to my guest and myself. Ian Lungold.
Ian Lungold, is one of the best
teachers.
That’s
how I would describe him, a teacher, of Mayan,
not just the Mayan
Calendar, but Mayan philosophy
if you will. Which has a
grand perspective on life, on the unfolding of
life, the transition, and I don’t know about
you, but for me it helps keep, keep things
in, keeps things
in perspective. Especially
when my normal paradigm starts
to rock-n-roll. When it starts
to get rattled, it’s
really good to have a foundation. Ian,
welcome back to the show.
IXL: Hello there.
ECTV: And welcome.
It looks like we have many new guests
who’ve just tuned in. Well gush,
good, good, good. Thank
you. I’m just
now noticing some of the statistics. Thank you
for just tuning in. I see that some
of you’ve just come aboard at the bottom
of the hour; and this interview will
be on our audio archives after tonight’s
interview. And Ian a gift to you, I’m
going to be passing
this one directly along to your Webmaster,
to post on your site…
IXL: Oh, thank you.
ECTV: …and it will
be free, to all who wish to access
it.
IXL: Yes. I mean you and me Mitch. I mean we’re doing
this as free
as we possibly
can.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: I’m doing it so
free, I’m…
ECTV: [laughing] You’re living in the woods.
IXL: [laughing] Yeah. I think its
great.
ECTV: [laughing] Yeah.
IXL: You know, because
we’re not suffering.
ECTV: Right.
IXL: What we are
interested in
being able to do is to be able to be in closer
communication, so that we can be of more assistance.
ECTV: Yes.
IXL: That
takes a little
bit you know; it takes a base
somewhere.
So, we’re working on establishing
that. And matter
of fact we’re going to be leaving fairly soon
on a trip into Canada, up into the Yucans.
ECTV: Will you be stopping
this way?
Perhaps you could give a lecture to the
folks in the northwest.
IXL: I would love to
do that, that’s why I, yeah I would, I would
love; if anybody out there knows
of a group, or a couple of groups of people,
who would like to see or meet, Madeline and I,
and get caught up and, on recent developments,
and ask the questions
that you’ve been wanting too; we are wide open to that and…
ECTV: Folks, listen
to this. Look I know there’s
some coordinators
out there, some
of the most brightest
and brilliant and enthusiastic
people, listening
to the show.
Folks, come on, one of you who live up
here in the northwest put your coordinator hat
on and, and, and make it happen. You can
get a hold of Ian through his website. His e-mail
address is
on the site and I didn’t know if you wanted
to reveal any other information, probably the site
would be the best. Ian?
IXL: Yeah, that’s
the best way, and that’s
Ian, that’s I.a.n., at mayanmajix.com.
ECTV: You better spell
mayanmajix,
again.
IXL:
m.a.y.a.n.m.a.j.i.x. .com.
ECTV: Very good.
IXL: And you
coordinators out there. Make it fair.
I mean you know, we want, we want to charge or have people donate, but
we want it to be a fair donation and…
ECTV: Ian, were you able to grab your, your multimedia
system? Visual aides? Did you grab your slide
projector? Will
you be able to have some slides,
from your travels?
IXL: No. I wasn’t
able to get that.
ECTV: Damn!
IXL: But I did bring
my easel. [laughs]
ECTV: [laughing]
IXL: That’s
cool anyway. I could use
a, I could use a stick
in the dirt and it’d be just fine.
ECTV: [laughing very hard] Okay. I love this. I love this.
IXL: So do I. And I want you all out there
to realize, that this, none of this;
remember the Hopi said that, “There’s
a river, running very fast. It’s so
swift that there
will be many
who are afraid. They
will, they will
try to hold on to the shore. And because
of that, they’re going to feel like they’re being torn apart”.
ECTV: Yes. That is
so true.
IXL: You know it’s
not time, this
is not the time;
and Ruiz with the Toltecs,
the wisdom, don’t take anything personally…
ECTV: Absolutely.
IXL: …least
of all, yourself.
ECTV: Ian, if, if, if I can and, and you know, plea