Mitch Battros interview with Ian Lungold

Earthchanges TV,  March 30, 2004
http://www.earthchangestv.com

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Mitch: Let me introduce Ian to the very few of you left who do not know my good friend Ian Lungold.  He is creator of the Mayan Conversion Codex.  Ian is a leading researcher of the Maya and their calendar systems, he is also a contributing author, artist and speaker.  Now I have asked him on tonight for certain reasons, one of course is I am as interested as anybody else on the follow-up on the US economy, look at all these tell-tale signs that say that we sure are in a tale spin. But I am also curious about what’s going on with the sun, and of course how to handle this on an emotional and human level…so Ian are you there?

Ian: Yes I am

Mitch:  Welcome my friend once again.

Ian:  Good Evening Everybody

Mitch: Yes, you have a very popular following and I sure have enjoyed our journey together.  Like always Ian, is there anything you want to address in the monologue before we go into various topics?

Ian: Yes, I would like to welcome everyone to the Third night of the Galactic Cycle of the Mayan Calendar.  What we are all experiencing, the test that each and every one of us are experiencing, is all part of the expansion of consciousness through the third night.  Each and every one of us are being called forth to confront our actual situation and to take action as needed to propel our survival and that’s what I want to talk about tonight.

Mitch:  Wow, well you sure have my attention as you always do.  I don’t even know where to start Ian, of course, I and I think most of our audience tonight has certainly been experiencing tests, maybe less defined.  Could you help us define just exactly what you are seeing coming or actually I guess we are already here?

Ian: Actually we are already here.  I trust that most of the people who are tuned in tonight have listened to previously shows and have some idea as to what the Mayan Calendar is about and the various levels of consciousness that has been built by or according to the Mayan calendar and have built a stair step of consciousness.  We are walking those stairs according to a very specific schedule and if you’re not familiar with that basic understanding or foundation, then I suggest that you look at the archives that Mitch has on his website www.earthchangestv.com or visit my website at www.mayanmajix.com and read the information there or listen to the archives to get more filled in.   What we are going into tonight is the actual application, of this Mayan calendar schedule, of what is happening today and what will necessarily follow.  We are not going into all the basics.

Mitch:  OK good.  Let’s do that then, let’s launch right in Ian. I guess we can look at this as a several part series, as a matter of fact, I can’t think of a better way to address these issues as they are unfolding.  I agree with Ian 100%, instead of taking time to build foundation, go to his website and find all the information you want.  I’ve decided to bring Ian on at least once a month.  Then as we get closer and as things escalate, I will bring him on every other week.   So Ian, take us to where you’d like tonight.

Ian:  Well, let’s talk about the third night and what sorts of things happen during the third night.  OK. The Third night is when new consciousness or new expectations of humanity come.  When new expectations occur, that expectation lasts, it’s like exuberance when this realization comes.  But then there’s this space of time before it manifest and that turns into dissatisfaction. It’s called impatience and that’s exactly where we are at this stage of consciousness in the Mayan calendar is in impatience.  Everyone has had this experience in his or her personal lives and you know that your state of mind during impatience is not very rational it’s reactionary.

Mitch: Yes, I want to mention Ian a guest I had on a few weeks ago.  Her name is Solara.  She wrote a book about  “11:11 The Doorway”.  The way she described it is that many of us have been waiting for the green light, if you will, in our journey. I love the way she put it.  It was a great visual.   In other words, we have some intuition.  We have some concept of what’s going on.  We might even know what some parts of it might look like as we go along, at least, in our hope and faith.  And those like you and me, perhaps, have been often getting red lights- stop; and often-yellow lights, but we are very impatient for the green light.  Please take it away.

Ian: Everyone gets his or her own internal signal.  I guess some people are getting their signal earlier than others. For instance, there are those of you listening to this program and you are listening with a particular consciousness and it is definitely different than all those people who have not tuned in.  This is a self-evolution. This is not by chance, this is by choice and we are making that choice by paying attention.

Mitch:  We are making that choice and sometimes begrudgingly because of the discomfort it often causes when we do change or when things change.

Ian:  Be thankful that you are recognizing the source of the changes even if the changes appear bad.  It is good that we are identifying the source.  The more we identify the real root of the problem, the closer we are to the solution of that problem.  And that’s exactly what is happening right now.  During the third night is when consciousness becomes impatient for the solution.  This causes revolution and civil war every single third night.  What happens during the third night is people become aware of the systems, which are now consciously flawed.   In other words, people are aware of the foibles in current systems and they fail.  It’s during the third night that those systems failed in every previous cycle and we are witnessing that right now, not just economically, not just politically, but ecologically as well.  Weather is going strait to Armageddon.

Mitch:  It’s hard to disagree with that.  My stance on this is that it’s cyclical.

Ian: Well, of course, that is what we are talking about is these huge cycles that are telescoping.  In other words, instead of this cycle being four hundred years long, like it was when Egypt was getting torn apart and Greece and the war of Troy which all happened in the third night.  Or it being like the last one when the third night was 19.7 years and there was the Spanish, French, Chinese, and East Indian revolution and revolution in Warsaw Russia and in Japan with samurai who were determined not to let western consciousness into Japan and a huge long civil war there. And finally our US civil war during that last third night.  Instead of it lasting that long, this one will be one year long.  There is no mistake here. There is a definite reason the incorporation called United States is divided right down the middle in consciousness.  That’s exactly what this period of time in this particular cycle is supposed to do.  It is suppose to tear everything down to its most basic element and be fully, fully examined.  That’s all that’s going on here and it’s not comfortable. People are so afraid of people finding out their secrets through big brother.  That is a tension, a source of fear.  Well, I got one question. What are you doing with those damn secrets in your pocket?  You’ve got to get them out.

Mitch:  Time to get rid of them, to shed our skin, to find our place in integrity and empowerment.

Ian: And become human.  Humans are able to make mistakes and recognize that and move on from them, not sit there tight hiding them.  All the people who end up doing that are not the kind of people who would evolve naturally.  People who are more flexible, who find new tools to work with new purchases in consciousness, those are the people who actually evolve on by natural selection.  This is no different than the dinosaurs going extinct or the Neanderthal or the Roman Empire or the Nazi regime going extinct.  It’s no different in basic principle.  It’s different in the details on the surface.

Mitch:  In other words, we all have to adjust, shift or evolve and I don’t mean this in a negative way folks, but I guess experience the strife that would go with it otherwise.  Is that correct Ian?

Ian:  Well, who are the best, most widely renowned football players?  They are the ones who play the game and to heck with spraining an ankle here and there.  They are out there playing hard, every play, taking their licks and giving them as good as they got.  And that’s what we all respect and honor. That’s why we pay them so damn much money because we wish we were them.  And we identify with them and that’s right to do.  But it’s more right to be that than watch it.  That’s the test that we are all at right now.

Ian:   Exactly right, and that is again just an exercise of this consciousness of the third night.  What the third night is about is discernment of what did work and what doesn’t’ work and ejecting what hasn’t worked to advance consciousness. That’s how it evolves and then the surviving consciousness goes on.   What’s happening with your friendship and relationship is that your becoming more and more discerning and it’s harder and harder to adapt or accept another kind of viewpoint.  And so this leads to the breakdown of the agreement that people have made for their relationship because most of those agreements were based on very physical considerations, physical a